Talking MMT (and more) with New Zealand's Climate Minister

I recently sat down with New Zealand’s Minister for Climate Change, James Shaw. In addition to serving in parliament, Shaw hosts a podcast called What Comes After What Comes Next.

We talked for nearly an hour and covered a a lot of ground: MMT, the policy response to the pandemic, inflation, the macro outlook, and, of course, the climate crisis. Our conversation will be released soon. If you’re interested can subscribe to the show.